6″ Scale 4 POA Line For Star Wars???

Toy Fair 2015 Hasbro Marvel Comics Basic 6 inch figures Hulk 1

Idle Hands has posted an article and gallery of Hasbro’s Marvel product slated to be showcased at Toy Fair 2015 next week. Within the items is a new line of figures similar to Titan Heroes but in a smaller 6″ scale – with only 3-4 POARead on for what this may mean for the Star Wars brand.

One could postulate that something similar will be coming for the Star Wars brand as well. For a while there have been discussions on the interwebs (amongst collectors) that Hasbro is trying to phase out the super articulated 3-3/4″ scale figures to funnel them to the 6″ TBS line. If that was the case, what does a limited articulation 6″ figure mean?

Commence Hulk rage in 3…2…1…

Images courtesy IdleHands

  • KRSnow

    Hasbro is making cheap alternatives for CHILDREN. These aren’t a threat to collectors or Legends. As a matter of fact, Hasbro is putting out more Marvel Legends Collector figures this year, than ever before. We’re getting 3-4 waves of Avengers, Spider-Man wave, Antman wave, another wave of Guardians of the Galaxy and a Guardians comic box set, Agents of SHIELD 3 pack, a Mystic set for SDCC, and possibly even more still. We’re getting like 50-60 Marvel Legends this year.

    Parents don’t want to spend $20+ for a single figure for 7 year old Billy. That’s where these come in. These were NEVER meant for adults.

  • Walter Edinger

    this happens to star wars I am out, done exit stage left

  • Ryan Murphy

    At this point they’re just pieces of plastic

  • Carbonite_Hydrates

    Toys be toys again. Arrrggg. (that’s in pirate talk)

  • Jedichris24

    You can thank all the “COLLECTORS” that buy every single saga legends figures!

  • charchar

    Do you think that with the advent and accessibility of 3D Printing, Hasbro is slowly bracing itself for it’s own ruin? Think about it. In a few years we will be printing our own action figures.

  • Rykrof_Enloe

    Kids don’t want this crap.

  • Robert Hatch

    Yes because reducing quality has such a rich and vibrant history to it and has proven to be so successful (Note I am renting about the already revealed Avengers figs, not the possible SW ones).

  • SlothFromHoth

    So 6″, 18″, 31″, 2.5″, 3.75″…What’s next?

    Also, other than the 3 repainted Legends figures, are we really getting nothing good for Avengers 2?

    • sporkman

      Whats next? COMMAND. Thats what came next! LOL

    • Carbonite_Hydrates

      Life Size is next. Maybe that will bring more ladies into collecting Marvel.

      • Paulskywalker

        No if you said life size for men that would be considered pervy lol.

        • Carbonite_Hydrates

          Either way is pervy and why we won’t see those, ever.

    • Bombadgungan

      Don’t forget 12″. 😉

    • KRSnow

      We’re getting 3-4 waves of Avengers Legends this year. Wave one already hit retail. Lots of great comic figures, and some obscure choices. Cap, Iron Man and Hulk are in wave 2. Cap and Iron Man are repaints, but that’s because that’s their costumes. Hulk is about 75% all new sculpt, only reusing part of the arms and the lower legs after the knee. We’re getting more movie figures in waves 3 and 4.

      We’re, also, getting a ton of other Legends waves and box sets this year. So, we are far from getting “nothing.” This is the largest year for Marvel Legends releases, yet.

  • mordamire

    OK, this is getting worst by the day. I have all but stopped collecting, and was waiting for something to improve, now I’m ready to give up for good.

  • Peakob1

    Once again this is an attempt to get the collectors out of the market completely, get back to making toys for kids.
    Regardless of the 20 year golden age Hasbro provided collector oriented products, they used our fanboy money to fund their own toy lines.
    If it’s not transformers, ponies, or Joe’s they are treating it as a product made for kids to be bought and thrown away in favor of the next great thing.

    Think I’m wrong wait till toy fair, it’s truly going to be a circus this year..,,,

    • KRSnow

      Really…so what are the roughly 60 Marvel Legends releases this year? Trying to get rid of collectors by having the largest year of Marvel Legends releases yet…sure.

      • Peakob1

        Is this a marvel conversation? No it’s not , didn’t here about them but what I’m seeing in stores looks like a lot of rehash from years previous!
        This marvel thing is one of the problems, why we are not getting Star Wars right now has zero to do with shipping problems, they know that if they released Star Wars during “marvel time” that people would prefer buying Star Wars over what is “finger quotes” marginalized as what consumers are supposed to buy right now!
        I’m not trying to argue with you really I’m not all I’m really trying to say is marvel has there fans, Star Wars certainly has there own fan you can’t just force us to buy both. Just because Disney owns marvel doesn’t mean consumers want to buy the toys!
        Both Disney and Hasbro are both saying the same thing right now
        How can we make other toy lines as popular as Star Wars, simple answer, YOU CANT!

        • KRSnow

          No one is trying to force you to buy both. You said if it’s not ponies, joes, or transformers that they don’t treat it seriously. I was pointing out you’re wrong. We’re getting tons of Marvel, and we are getting two lines of the Black Series for Star Wars. Hasbro is giving attention to ALL of their lines, sorry they aren’t ignoring it all for Star Wars.

          Nice to see you are pretty self-entitled, though. Trying to demand that Hasbro only makes toys for you, LOL. How DARE Hasbro make toys for one of the largest and most successful franchises in history! Those darn Marvel fans are taking away all your possible toys. I’m pretty sure Marvel is making Hasbro more money at the moment. Scaling back all the different lines and trimming the budget of figures down kinda points to Star Wars being responsible for some losses.

          Maybe when episode VII comes out it will give them the push to get out more product. But, they’re going to need to focus on the modern stuff, too. I have a feeling you won’t be happy with that, too much.

          • Peakob1

            You mean make toys that people WANT! This has nothing to do with being entitled to anything. Several decades of all the nice stuff that you guys put out, oops! (I mean Hasbro put out) for Star Wars and then nothing, this is the real issue here. I wouldn’t presume to say I’m entitled even though I have spent a fortune on all this product just like everyone else, we care after all and start to lose our minds when we see these “wastes of plastic” that is what the topic is about in the first place. 4 POA marvel and the possibility that they turn Star Wars into this.

            All these cracked ideas it appears as though they have forgotten the past and how successful it was.
            If I feel entitled to anything it’s a “real explanation of these changes” Hasbro is making? The things they don’t want to talk about that’s what I would like to know.
            I understand other things need to be made and you can exclaim I’m wrong all day, I have ten other people that say the same thing you do. I have been collecting since 78, I evaluate it as I see it unfold… So far it’s just a bunch of excuses to give us old toys at inflated prices and whenever new items come out its something like the above photos.

          • KRSnow

            Your entire previous post consisted of you whining that Hasbro should stop making Marvel and ignore their other IPs and only put out Star Wars product. Saying that Marvel will never be popular or a big thing, lol! That was one of the most self-entitled things on the internet. Just because you don’t like it, it must be doing terribly…that is downright delusional. You’re attitude that “I’ve been collecting the longest, so you should make only what I want,” is, also, ridiculously selfish.

            Guess what? You ALREADY have your Collectors’ line of figures, in 2 different scale formats. The 6″ line is almost 75% brand new unique sculpts for each wave. The 3.75″ line is getting up there with unique sculpts, too. Those new sculpts really eat into the budget of just how many figures they can make each year. Star Wars CANNOT rely on the same reuse strategy that Marvel Legends, MOTUC, DCUC, and others use. That’s why your 6″ waves consist of 1 or 2 less figures each wave. Also taking into account rising labour costs in China. Labour costs have skyrocketed in the last half decade. Making an articulated 3.75″ figure now costs nearly the same as just making a 6″ figure. And, if Hasbro wants to cut the labour costs they will need to buy new factories and move production to Vietnam, like other companies are…but, that will be a big delay and loss of profit.

            So, guess how Hasbro cuts their costs and makes sure they have the budget for those SEPARATE COLLECTORS’ LINES…they make their product for CHILDREN much cheaper. The other lines are for CHILDREN, and regardless of what collectors like to tell themselves children don’t care about all the articulation. Parents don’t like spending collector prices on their children either. The 3.75″ and 6″ lines with 5poa are NOT MEANT FOR YOU. They are entirely SEPARATE from the existing collectors’ lines. They aren’t in competition, and they aren’t phasing anything out. It’s silly and selfish of you to demand that the children’s line be engineered like a collector line, when you ALREADY have a collector line. If you are disappointed in Hasbro, feel free to go buy Figuarts, Figma, Revoltech, or one of the other high quality collector lines.

            And, if you think I work for Hasbro and there is some conspiracy to get rid of collectors….lol. Do you believe in bigfoot and ufo conspiracies, too? No, I’m just another collector. I just don’t like elitist, self-entitled people who decide every decision a company makes is an affront to the world.

          • Peakob1

            That was an impressive peice of writing! I’m not elitist, you can try to chase me away with the rising tide of change and how you think things should be made In the name of profits. I’m not some business major or apparently able to write rebuttes as well as you, I got to get back to my day job because I don’t get paid to argue with passionate fans!
            Once again sorry you don’t see my point view, it is a free country and I happen to like Hasbro, remember I collected for all these years, and been discussing it for some time also. this topic is about making 4 POA chucks of plastic!
            Marvel , Star Wars, transformers whatever it is,has bad idea written all over it! Ask several people before you just go on attacking one person.
            I will take the things that you written here into consideration
            And evaluate My statements with them.
            I appreciate other opinions even if I don’t agree with them

          • Peakob1

            And before we argue any further I you go home with hurt feeling I iust want to let you know that’s not my intention, I’m sure the good people at Hasbro are doing a fantastic job at making marvel products, if that’s what your all tore up about then I apologize, but don’t mistake my passion, which is (Star Wars) and my constructive criticisms as a sense of entitlement, all I’m saying is the people who have been collecting for as long as I have understand that these changes are unnecessary , don’t fix what’s not broken! And if there’s a reason Hasbro needs to make 6 inch figures and “lack of action” 3.75 figures instead of all the beautifully put together toys from just three years past that have brought in so much profit over the last 20 years then ok just tell me why we have to get items like this I the above photos over toys we really want.

  • bmales01

    So Hasbro wants to funnel us to the new 6″ inch line and then turn it into 5POA?

    that’s sound logic

    • Robert Hatch

      It is Hasbro.

    • KRSnow

      No, Hasbro is making cheap alternatives for CHILDREN. These aren’t a threat to Legends. As a matter of fact, Hasbro is putting out more Marvel Legends Collector figures this year, than ever before. We’re getting 3-4 waves of Avengers, Spider-Man wave, Antman wave, another wave of Guardians of the Galaxy and a Guardians comic box set, Agents of SHIELD 3 pack, a Mystic set for SDCC, and possibly even more still.

      Parents don’t want to spend $20+ for a single figure for 7 year old Billy. That’s where these come in. These were NEVER meant for adults.

  • Richard Grissom Jr.

    Maybe we should reach out to Disney for help. Anyone have a contact email for them to air our grievances? Hahahaha!

    • Peakob1

      How do we know Disney is not the one behind all this madness
      Being totally serious here, have you ever noticed how much “anti-collector sentiment” is in all of the Toy story animations?
      Next time you watch look at who they consider the villains to be….

      • Bombadgungan

        Have you seen how much Disney collector stuff is out there? It may be about the children first and foremost, but the clearly know they have a strong adult following as well.

        • Peakob1

          Well then what the heck Hasbro’s problem then

          • Bombadgungan

            Hasbro is not Disney.

  • Peakob1

    Waves imaginary wand in the air “Ridiculous!”

  • Ryan Murphy

    I don’t think it will go that low

    • Darth Eddie

      I hope it doesn’t, but what we think might be irrelevant. This company is being led by suits and corporate beancounters who seem like they’ll try anything to slash their costs and maximize their profit and the product’s quality appears to be a relative concept to many of them.

      • Robert Hatch

        The suits and beancounters is just Hasbro’s latest failed excuse to blame someone else for their mistakes after fans and retailers, the truth is they are incompetent on all levels and keep showing us over and over and over.

        • Darth Eddie

          Corporate leadership these days is a shadow of what it used to be, isn’t it? Hasbro used to have vision and listen to its customer base.

      • nate e.

        You just described all big business.

        • Paulskywalker

          Not just big Business, the suits have taken over everything including Government. No experience in what they do, they just know greed and are ruining everything.

  • It means no more collecting, more money for us all.

  • Clearance fodder. I hope the gift-giving adults and parents are happy with what these budget lines bring to retail and that they buy them all up, because I don’t know what collectors will….

    • Darth Eddie

      Yeah, my open-mindedness about different product is starting to hit a wall, especially since we’re seeing these cheaper, dumber trends start to affect the more adult and collector-focused figures in the different licenses. You know me, Paul, there’s some of this stuff I really like and enjoy and some that’s just one step above being poorly-painted stick figures with “Made In China” stamped on them, but the Hasbro trend of continually dumbing down and removing plastic and tooling while the paint apps continue to be lousy is getting ridiculous and pretty pitiful to watch.

      If this runs parallel to far better 6″ product and doesn’t change how those are manufactured, fine. But if not, this is even more proof that Hasbro needs new leadership before they torpedo their entire company and take much of the adult toy collecting community with them.

    • Peakob1

      What’s a collector?, for over the last 20+ years the collectors were the the guardians of peace and enthusiasm in the old days before the dark times before the gift-giving adults.

      • Jedichris24

        The collectors were the only ones that kept the Star Wars line alive and now they treat us like poo poo

        • Peakob1

          All the “constructive criticism” we give them here on discus could have something to do with it…. But then again, it seems like they are finally weening themselves off the collector tete, I honestly don’t think they ever wanted to be a part of the collector arena, for a long time they blindly thought kids were interested in Star Wars, and we gained some younger people along the way, yet if kids are not at the forefront of the products they make Then Star Wars doesn’t have a preyer!

          I have been saying this for a while now, it about them having control over the most popular toy license so they can determine its out come. Plus one other factor a lot of folks are missing is that they are acting like a wounded dog over the 2012 debacle.
          Think about how much they lost over the course of the last three year, and I’m not defending them either, these day clearly they are trying to cut every corner they can….

          • Bombadgungan

            “Weening themselves off the collector teat”. I love it! 😉

          • Peakob1

            It’s true if you have been collecting since the beginning I feel clones wars was really the only thing supported by kids maybe saga blue with all the push button action but everything else has “quietly” pushed as a collectable till now…