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		By: WeenieBeenie		</title>
		<link>https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-41051</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 02:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Overall, Last Jedi is an insult to Star Wars. It is a planned and directed insult to the Baby boomers, and especially Generations X and Y. It&#039;s not that they killed off our heroes , Han and Luke, it&#039;s that they told us that they didn&#039;t matter. That they were broken old men who failed in their naive attempt to make the universe a better place. They were broken and sad and lost and without hope. There was no generational passing of the baton, and no joy, as there was for Luke and old Ben. It&#039;s telling the post Vietnam generation you failed, Vietnam happened, watergate happened, you thought you could make the world different and now we have trump and Star Wars has kylo ren. Rather than the generations coming together and healing rifts there was no healing, just collapse and death and knowing Luke didn&#039;t matter. The fact that he is a &quot;symbol&quot; for the future doesn&#039;t change that that symbol was based on a myth, a falsehood, and that Luke died a broken man w no hope. Luke tossing away his father&#039;s Lightsaber? Luke never embracing the Jedi again? Luke just going into exile to die meekly? This was antithetical to Lucas vision of healing the generational 60s divide and bringing hope. The world is already bad enough, I don&#039;t need Star Wars to offer no hope for change. Moreover, to have Carrie Fisher die and Leia to live is a creepy metaphorical holding onto her corpse.  Moreover, this film wasn&#039;t even good movie making and its plot made no sense.  Luke makes a map but doesn&#039;t want to be found and wants to die alone?  We get Poe humiliated at every turn by mean kindergarten teacher turned Admiral Gender Studies, while Finn literally gets tossed to the back seat of the Falcon by Rose (worse possible character in SW universe), meanwhile Mary Sue Rey defeats Jedi Masters and lifts more boulders than Yoda could dream about, all without any training?  Ugh, oh great Lucas!   As Mark Hammil said, it&#039;s not his or our Luke. We get the message - move on and let go of the past. Okay, we will. Last Jedi equals last Star Wars movie. It&#039;s over. We are going to take our memory of Luke and Han and Leia as they should be before this film mischaracterized them and you millenials can have Rose and Finn. It&#039;s over. New hope is gone. Peace out. A long time Star war fan letting it go and not coming back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overall, Last Jedi is an insult to Star Wars. It is a planned and directed insult to the Baby boomers, and especially Generations X and Y. It&#8217;s not that they killed off our heroes , Han and Luke, it&#8217;s that they told us that they didn&#8217;t matter. That they were broken old men who failed in their naive attempt to make the universe a better place. They were broken and sad and lost and without hope. There was no generational passing of the baton, and no joy, as there was for Luke and old Ben. It&#8217;s telling the post Vietnam generation you failed, Vietnam happened, watergate happened, you thought you could make the world different and now we have trump and Star Wars has kylo ren. Rather than the generations coming together and healing rifts there was no healing, just collapse and death and knowing Luke didn&#8217;t matter. The fact that he is a &#8220;symbol&#8221; for the future doesn&#8217;t change that that symbol was based on a myth, a falsehood, and that Luke died a broken man w no hope. Luke tossing away his father&#8217;s Lightsaber? Luke never embracing the Jedi again? Luke just going into exile to die meekly? This was antithetical to Lucas vision of healing the generational 60s divide and bringing hope. The world is already bad enough, I don&#8217;t need Star Wars to offer no hope for change. Moreover, to have Carrie Fisher die and Leia to live is a creepy metaphorical holding onto her corpse.  Moreover, this film wasn&#8217;t even good movie making and its plot made no sense.  Luke makes a map but doesn&#8217;t want to be found and wants to die alone?  We get Poe humiliated at every turn by mean kindergarten teacher turned Admiral Gender Studies, while Finn literally gets tossed to the back seat of the Falcon by Rose (worse possible character in SW universe), meanwhile Mary Sue Rey defeats Jedi Masters and lifts more boulders than Yoda could dream about, all without any training?  Ugh, oh great Lucas!   As Mark Hammil said, it&#8217;s not his or our Luke. We get the message &#8211; move on and let go of the past. Okay, we will. Last Jedi equals last Star Wars movie. It&#8217;s over. We are going to take our memory of Luke and Han and Leia as they should be before this film mischaracterized them and you millenials can have Rose and Finn. It&#8217;s over. New hope is gone. Peace out. A long time Star war fan letting it go and not coming back.</p>
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		By: Thorswars Itxaso		</title>
		<link>https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40551</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thorswars Itxaso]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2017 09:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40271&quot;&gt;djjsin&lt;/a&gt;.

No, I do not think so]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40271">djjsin</a>.</p>
<p>No, I do not think so</p>
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		By: Thorswars Itxaso		</title>
		<link>https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40550</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thorswars Itxaso]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2017 09:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40359&quot;&gt;King Bowser&lt;/a&gt;.

Agreed that Ackbar should have taken that role but without the stupid &quot;I am not telling you my plan for no reason&quot; course of action]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40359">King Bowser</a>.</p>
<p>Agreed that Ackbar should have taken that role but without the stupid &#8220;I am not telling you my plan for no reason&#8221; course of action</p>
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		By: AllThePowa		</title>
		<link>https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40461</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AllThePowa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2017 06:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40448&quot;&gt;Skav Atar&lt;/a&gt;.

I took it as he&#039;ll be force ghost for most of the time. Luke doesn&#039;t say see you later and never come back. Buy then again, they completely destroyed lukes character.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40448">Skav Atar</a>.</p>
<p>I took it as he&#8217;ll be force ghost for most of the time. Luke doesn&#8217;t say see you later and never come back. Buy then again, they completely destroyed lukes character.</p>
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		By: AllThePowa		</title>
		<link>https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40460</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AllThePowa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2017 06:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40318&quot;&gt;LNCHoo BRKoo&lt;/a&gt;.

We don&#039;t need s comedic director in star wars.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40318">LNCHoo BRKoo</a>.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need s comedic director in star wars.</p>
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		By: Skav Atar		</title>
		<link>https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40448</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skav Atar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2017 02:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40243&quot;&gt;Josh S&lt;/a&gt;.

during the duel, Luke did tell Kylo that he will be with him always.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40243">Josh S</a>.</p>
<p>during the duel, Luke did tell Kylo that he will be with him always.</p>
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		By: Norman		</title>
		<link>https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40415</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2017 12:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40328&quot;&gt;Jayson Krebsbach&lt;/a&gt;.

I had thought the film audio stuttered because it sounded a bit odd...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40328">Jayson Krebsbach</a>.</p>
<p>I had thought the film audio stuttered because it sounded a bit odd&#8230;</p>
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		By: Tordel Back		</title>
		<link>https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40413</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tordel Back]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2017 06:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40296&quot;&gt;John Titus&lt;/a&gt;.

Hilarious. If you think pre-Disney SW somehow endorses your narrow internet-derived gender-defensive worldview, I think we were watching very different films. For just one example, Luke in RotJ defeats the Sith by casting aside his sabre and trusting in love. For a second, Leia takes charge the moment she meets the boys on the DS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40296">John Titus</a>.</p>
<p>Hilarious. If you think pre-Disney SW somehow endorses your narrow internet-derived gender-defensive worldview, I think we were watching very different films. For just one example, Luke in RotJ defeats the Sith by casting aside his sabre and trusting in love. For a second, Leia takes charge the moment she meets the boys on the DS.</p>
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		By: Jeff		</title>
		<link>https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40412</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2017 02:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40358&quot;&gt;King Bowser&lt;/a&gt;.

I think he will]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40358">King Bowser</a>.</p>
<p>I think he will</p>
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		By: AllThePowa		</title>
		<link>https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40411</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AllThePowa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2017 02:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40337&quot;&gt;LaurenceQuint&lt;/a&gt;.

Agreed. Also I have no respect for people who steal/pirate movies.

Even if the movie is trash, people still have to be paid. It&#039;s disgusting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/12/15/the-last-jedi-spoiler-discussion/#comment-40337">LaurenceQuint</a>.</p>
<p>Agreed. Also I have no respect for people who steal/pirate movies.</p>
<p>Even if the movie is trash, people still have to be paid. It&#8217;s disgusting.</p>
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